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Post by molebrain on May 17, 2018 14:05:57 GMT
I was just wondering if there was a list of LCD monitors that are 15khz capable, and if so, what are they? I'm looking to get rid of an extra step of using an upscaler for my video output Thanks! -Tony
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Post by Pyrofer on May 17, 2018 15:08:12 GMT
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Post by molebrain on May 17, 2018 15:21:25 GMT
oh yes! thanks Pyrofer. I thought I remembered seeing that before. awesome!
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Post by Zippy Zapp on May 17, 2018 19:06:41 GMT
I am curious to hear what your guys results are using LCDs with 15 khz support. I have to say I have tried a few of these on the list and I have been less then impressed particularly with Amiga. Seems the upscale method is more reliable and often produces better results. But maybe I am just trying the wrong models.
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Post by Pyrofer on May 18, 2018 16:54:02 GMT
I have a 17" benQ on my 128 80col mode and it's not great. The pixels don't quite line up and you get some pretty unpleasant effects on text. It's usable but I would prefer it if it was better.
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Post by Zippy Zapp on May 18, 2018 21:38:20 GMT
I have an NEC 1970NX and it is ok but not great either. I have not yet tried it with my 128 but with some modes of the Amiga 1200 it shimmers sometimes. Before that I had a Dell 2001FP and it was even worse. It never saved the positions of the screen adjustments and was always way off in geometry.
I am glad I stil have my 1702, 1084 and Sony PVM. I just wish they didn't take up so much room.
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Post by bjonte on May 19, 2018 9:17:56 GMT
I have a Samsung SyncMaster 710 MP TV and a home built adapter to get scart from C128. It is pretty crappy but works.
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Post by mrbombermillzy on May 20, 2018 20:32:56 GMT
I have an NEC multysync 1990FXp that I purcased with the sole intent of replacing the half dozen (im not joking) CRT monitors that I have lying around for the older systems that I own. It does a fair job for most stuff 15Khz upwards. However, it doesnt cope with the more 'custom' scan rates in the 20-30khz range, or any interlace modes, which makes it a bit trickier to use on an Amiga. IMHO, any LCD will make a poor substitute for any CRT on the C64/128, especially graphics/demos that use the colour/pixel bleed/blur of a CRT to advantage. My C64 stuff looks awful on my Panasonic Plasma TV too Then theres the frame delay to think about as well... Err, not to get too negative about it all, the above mentioned NEC does ok! Also, there is an Atari ST list with LCD's that will work on C64/128 if the description says they do low/med res on ST: www.atari-wiki.com/index.php?title=Flat_Panel_Displays&action=editUnfortunately, the site has been broken for a while, so the above source view link will look a bit rough. However, you get a little description for alot of the monitor display results, which can be handy. Lastly Molebrain, I wasnt clear about what you are using the monitor for. If its for the VICII/e outputs, you may have to get something with a composite/s-video input, as most will only take analog RGB input or DP/DVI/HDMI, any of which a UK or USA C64/128 system does not output (unless they are TFT TV monitors, which should have a built in converter/upscaler circuit and RF, COMP and SVID inputs). I have heard that the French C64s had an RGB output, but I believe they had a Composite to RGB converter on the mainboard, so the quality wasnt great (Ive never come across any so cant confirm..Any French C64 owners reading this?). And I THINK that they would only display B/W on a PAL system anyway as they used PERITEL which is a bit different signal wise.
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Post by dynamiccomputing on Oct 22, 2018 6:11:53 GMT
I have the Acer V226 monitor and use it on my Amiga - works fantastic at 15 Khz. I am waiting on my power supply for my "new" C128 so I will try it right away and see how good it looks.
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