alf
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Post by alf on Apr 16, 2021 8:10:24 GMT
Hi all,
does anybody know of a USB conversion of a 1351 Mouse to use the mouse with GEOS 128? Or a conversion of an Amiga Tank Mouse, which almost has the same look and feel as the 1351?
I've seen some conversions of an Amiga Tank Mouse which use new PC Mouse hardware. Can anybody recommend a modern PC Mouse for such a conversion?
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Post by Pyrofer on Apr 18, 2021 14:35:26 GMT
There are a few kits that (I am assuming what you actually want here as I was slightly confused by your wording) will take a modern PS/2 or USB mouse and make it work on the C64 and C128. Your best bet is to get one of those. Things such as this www.breadbox64.com/blog/the-tom-rev2-review/ appear to work. What I did was take a dead Amiga Tank mouse for the shell. I filed out all the excess plastic inside and put a modern optical mouse inside the tank shell. I glued two buttons in place and ran wires to their connections on the PCB of the mouse. Then I connected the adapter INSIDE the tank shell directly to the mouse PCB. I used the original Amiga mouse cable to connect up the pins on the 9pin output of the adapter. WARNING- the tank mouse has a wire missing. I opened the plug (carefully) and relocated one of the direction pins from the joystick not needed for the C64 mouse to replace the missing one. THIS IS HARD, but you get an "original" mouse cable then! The final effect is the exact original look of the Tank mouse along with it's original plug. However it's optical and plugs directly into my C64/128. Just don't mix it up with your actual Amiga mice! (write in sharpie on the bottom or something).
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Post by alf on Apr 22, 2021 10:44:50 GMT
No, sorry, I was a bit unprecize in my wording. English is not my native tongue :-) I'm looking for is a way to build the hardware of a modern USB Mouse into the shell of a 1351 or Amiga Tank Mouse. I'd like to use it for a Raspberry Pi driven C128 and Amiga emulation.
I tried it with an Amiga Tank Mouse and different PC Mouse models, but either the optical lens wouldn't fit at all or it wasn't focussing correctly, so the movement of the Mouse wasn't transmitted without dropouts etc. This could be the case if the optic is to high above the ground.
Therefore I'm looking for somebody who has converted a 1351 or Amiga Tank Mouse to a modern USB Mouse and could give me a tip for the conversion itself and which USB Mouse is usable.
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Post by Pyrofer on May 2, 2021 18:18:44 GMT
I did it, it's a pain but you have to cut out the plastic. I super glued the retainer clip that holds the ball in place shut, then using a dremel I removed all the plastic I could while not going through it. Once the bottom of the mouse was mostly flat the optical assembly was close enough to work fine. I put the Mouse to 1351 adapter inside the tank shell too so you could use the original wire and not have a dongle on the end. If you use an Amiga mouse cable to do this one of the POT lines is missing. I opened the plug up and removed a joystick direction wire and moved it to the missing POT line. Sadly you now can't use it in joystick emulation mode but that is hardly a loss as it's a mouse!
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